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PostSubject: Gibralter/Spain problems   Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:07 pm

The Spanish seem to be hell bent on causing problems between Britain and Spain........
http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/spanish-ambassador-summoned-by-fo-1

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PostSubject: Re: Gibralter/Spain problems   Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:31 pm

I'm going to come at this from the other side. Did it not all kick off when the Gibraltar authorities created an artificial reef in disputed waters?
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PostSubject: Re: Gibralter/Spain problems   Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:04 pm

Im not sure, I thought it was in gibralters waters, will have to look that up. All I do know is spain want gib back

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PostSubject: Re: Gibralter/Spain problems   Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:56 am

Funny how you can just drive over a motorway bridge - both ways - between Portugal and Spain down in the Algarve, with no border control whatsoever, yet if you want to go from Spain to Gibraltar (British Sovereign Territory and part of the EU), even just on foot, you're subjected to just short of a strip search scratch

Most of the daily travellers across the Spain - Gib border are Spanish locals who work there anyway, so the majority that are being inconvenienced by the Spanish Gov'ts stance is their own citizens Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Gibralter/Spain problems   Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:28 am

I have an old school mate, Chris Gamble, who lives near Gib, who posts regularly on FB about the problem. Below is a video of the queues to get into Gib, unbelievable. surprised 


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PostSubject: Re: Gibralter/Spain problems   Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:05 am

He has just posted this on FB, via one of his friends.

Chris Gamble
The queues to leave Gibraltar tonight were probably the worst yet. Cars, bikes and pedestrians ALL forced to wait for hours. The pedestrian queue was probably a kilometre long! I was in the bike queue for an hour and a half and got off lightly (but was still very late to pick up my kids). And for what? Was it to check my passport or to see if I was a smuggler? NO! They never actually stop me because they never have good reason. They just use their bully-boy tactics to delay everyone wanting to go home, punishing all those honest people who have jobs and come back to Spain to spend their money and pay their taxes there, leaving those in Gibraltar to simply pull up the drawbridge and just wait out another seige. Congratulations to Spain's politicians for persecuting their own people! Wake up Spain to the abuse your leaders are commiting in your name and demand a stop to it. Brussels and the rest of the world, please dont ignore what is happening beneath your noses in this supposedly developed European democracy which is acting like the worst kind of military state: Ask your leaders to demand a stop to this political MADNESS. Not only is it wasting my life away for no good reason, but with the increasing frustrations and declining weather, it's bound to end in human tragedy soon . . .Well said Julian Camble

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PostSubject: Re: Gibralter/Spain problems   Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:23 am

Thats shocking and no need for it.

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PostSubject: Re: Gibralter/Spain problems   Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:30 am

4thforum wrote:
I'm going to come at this from the other side. Did it not all kick off when the Gibraltar authorities created an artificial reef in disputed waters?
Just a bit info about this........

http://www.dolphin-research.com/projectdetail.php?id=14

It looks like the reef was built within Gibraltars waters over 30years ago .................

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/aug/22/spain-gibraltar-reef-fishing




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PostSubject: Re: Gibralter/Spain problems   Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:57 am

That's what I meant about disputed waters. Spain has a territorial claim on Gibraltar and waters.


I thought that this reef was a new thing not something 30 years old.
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